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Ray Imgrund's avatar

"Useless conversations are ordinary said to be only a venial sin of curiosity, as Sanchez, Cajetan, Suarez, Navarrus, Soto, and the Salmanticenses teach."

Overall, your article here seems to deal pretty decisively with the claim that Fr. R has engaged in divination.

However, I am curious as to what you think of the claim that he is engaging in these kinds of "useless conversations" that (while not mortal) would still constitute venial sin. The only example she specifically provides is Fr. R saying that the demons told him about the current complexion of the Church, but it is very, very easy to find examples of things online from him that stretch the idea of being "necessary" to ask during a given exorcism. I wouldn't be grilling a demon about what is going down in the Vatican while trying to help a poor soul.

My main critique (and getting more at Melody's claim of disobedience) is that it may be pastorally imprudent to make this knowledge public in connection with it coming from the mouths of demons (especially since, if frivolous, it would still be sin on the part of Fr. R), and he would be in disobedience to the accepted rubrics of what may be asked during such rites.

I am open to persuasion either way, and since you gave a very well researched and measured response so far, I would be interested to hear what you think!

Mary Dworakowski's avatar

Can we not give Fr. R the benefit of the doubt that he has a better understanding of the whole situation than any of us, no(ie, the good that may come from

his making us aware of what we are really dealing with here)? Hearing an online, self proclaimed digital housewife does not actually speak of her vast knowledge on these affairs. I will not for one minute pretend I know anything on this subject and think it is dangerous on her part to lead her followers as if she does. Ryan’s show has had 3.9 million views, I am thinking Fr. does not do this out of a perverse egotistical need. Pretty sure he does know where that would take him. No statement from Mrs. Lyons?

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